My first FOWLR tank

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:32 pm

Readings as of 10 minutes ago

ph - 8.2
ammonia - 0
nitrite - 0
nitrate - 10
SG - 1.023
temp - 81F


:cheers: :cheers: CYCLED!!!!! :cheers: :cheers:

I am going to test the water for the rest of the week every morning to make sure it really is cycled. So I am hoping by this weekend I will be able to add my first fish. 8-)

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby ~RuSh~ » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Woooooohooooooo!!!! Now what? What's the stock list going to be?
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby Buehler » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:29 pm

Congrats!!
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby Buehler » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:29 pm

Congrats!!
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby Lilly » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:10 am

Yahooooooooooooo :lthumb:

Good idea to continue checking the numbers....you also need to get the water temp down...76-77 is best. The SG is good....1.024 is ideal. Nice job WL what is the stocking list :)
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:34 am

~RuSh~ wrote:Woooooohooooooo!!!! Now what? What's the stock list going to be?


Stocking will be

2 clowns
3-4 blue legged hermits
couple of cleaner shrimp

Buehler wrote:Congrats!!


Thanks B :)

Lilly wrote:Yahooooooooooooo :lthumb:

Good idea to continue checking the numbers....you also need to get the water temp down...76-77 is best. The SG is good....1.024 is ideal. Nice job WL what is the stocking list :)


Thanks Lilly, will get the temp down, I will raise the salinity.


I do have a few questions.

1 - do i remove the shrimp? or whats left of it. I have a couple of marble sized pieces left in the mesh bag.
2 - should i perform a water change before adding the fish?
3 - just did the test again this morning, and it seems the ammonia creeped up a little to .25ppm maybe less :( is this normal?

the nitrite is still 0 and nitrates are 10ppm, i will retest when i get home from work tonight.

i noticed this morning white dust like substance all over the power heads and substrate. After doing some reading, one reef site said it could be dead coraline algae anyone have this type of issue.

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:55 am

I would remove the shrimp now. It's only going to create more nitrates for you and you don't need that anymore. The bacteria are established so you've accomplished your goal.

I would do a water change before adding your fish, yes. Get those nitrates back down as close to zero as you can.

I've found the colors that define 0ppm and .25ppm on the ammonia charts to be awfully difficult to distinguish. You may be at 0. I'd test again. If you do have .25ppm ammonia then I'd wait a few days until it's broken down before adding your first fish.


As far as the stock is concerned - I do want to point out if you get two clowns they will pair up. All young clown fish are asexual and as a dominant fish arises in a group they become female. The first subdominant fish becomes the male. The rest remain sexless. If you separate two from a group you will have a male and a female undoubtedly.

This isn't a bad thing necessarily - the pairing and courtship is interesting to watch. They are not unlike cichlids in this manner. But once they pair up and build a strong bond with one another they can become quite aggressive. If you don't ever plan on adding other fish, this is fine. But I feel obligated to tell you that my clowns have bitten me on several occasions and have killed a handful of tank mates (29g tank). It's not a bad idea to explore other options too - you have many many options my friend. :D
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby Buehler » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:35 pm

Also, keep in mind not all clown fish are created equal, i.e.- skunk clowns are more docile than percula clownfish and Maroon clowns are large and descended from the devil
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:08 pm

~RuSh~ wrote:I would remove the shrimp now. It's only going to create more nitrates for you and you don't need that anymore. The bacteria are established so you've accomplished your goal.

I would do a water change before adding your fish, yes. Get those nitrates back down as close to zero as you can.

I've found the colors that define 0ppm and .25ppm on the ammonia charts to be awfully difficult to distinguish. You may be at 0. I'd test again. If you do have .25ppm ammonia then I'd wait a few days until it's broken down before adding your first fish.


As far as the stock is concerned - I do want to point out if you get two clowns they will pair up. All young clown fish are asexual and as a dominant fish arises in a group they become female. The first subdominant fish becomes the male. The rest remain sexless. If you separate two from a group you will have a male and a female undoubtedly.

This isn't a bad thing necessarily - the pairing and courtship is interesting to watch. They are not unlike cichlids in this manner. But once they pair up and build a strong bond with one another they can become quite aggressive. If you don't ever plan on adding other fish, this is fine. But I feel obligated to tell you that my clowns have bitten me on several occasions and have killed a handful of tank mates (29g tank). It's not a bad idea to explore other options too - you have many many options my friend. :D


thanks for the input Rush and B :)


the remaining shrimp is out of the tank and I tested several times and it still looks like .25ppm for ammonia very hard to tell, Nitrites is still 0 and nitrates are about 10 - 20ppm I would say closer to 20ppm

couple of the feather duster worms were on the move during the night, couple have taken up residence on the base rock.

I understand the pairing of clowns and if i decide to go this route, they will be the only fish in the tank. My kid wants nemo, so who am i to disappoint. :D

that being said, the big als close to me is very limited on what they have. They have every clown fish imaginable, some goby's and damsels and the rest are to big for this tank. They did not even have cleaner shrimp, alot of snails. So i may be forced to venture out to the big city (Toronto)

I am open to your recommendations for stocking, but keep in mind, there has to be a nemo in this tank. :lol:

Buehler wrote:Also, keep in mind not all clown fish are created equal, i.e.- skunk clowns are more docile than percula clownfish and Maroon clowns are large and descended from the devil


the clowns i was looking at were the percula clowns, and snowflake clowns they was an abundance of them at big als. Like i said above, I am welcome to stocking recommendations.

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:21 pm

its fishy time!!!!! :cheers:

this weekend I get my first sw fish 2 x percula clowns.

my ammonia test is finally behaving. 0ppm :lthumb:

So tonight I am going to perfrom a small water change (5gal) and saturday i go get nemo :)

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby Lilly » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:32 pm

Nemo's....love them...don't forget the new pics please 8-)
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:48 pm

quick vid of the first occupants of the tank. These little guys are adjusting very well.

http://s244.beta.photobucket.com/user/WickedLESTOR/media/SAM_0843_zps87e24413.mp4.html

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:05 am

Awesome! Congrats WL, the tank is looking great. :D
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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby WickedLESTOR » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:54 pm

~RuSh~ wrote:Awesome! Congrats WL, the tank is looking great. :D


Thanks Rush

I find the look boring actually, so in the near future, I am upgrading my lighting in order to get some corals in the tank. right now I have the marineland single bright led light, initially I thought I had ordered the double bright, but I was wrong. :oops: no wonder it was so cheap. :)

in the next couple of weeks, I will be looking at lighting possibilities. Right now my focus is on getting the tank inhabitants in there and my water change routine in order. I have performed 2 thus far, one before the fish went in and one just last night after the video was made. I am only changing out 5 galllons , I am still in freshwater mode :D I change at least 70-80% per week in my 180g, so this saltwater thing is getting some used to.

Param. as of this morning

PH 8.2
ammonia - 0
nitirte - 0
nitrate - 10
SG - 1.023 - 1.024
temp - 78F

So I am on the right track. :lthumb:

Cheers

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Re: My first FOWLR tank

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:04 pm

Indeed, you are on the right track. Whenever you are ready, let us know and we should be able to steer you down the right path. :lthumb:
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