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Re: SW Novice - getting rid of everything...

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:15 pm

It's only been 2 months, but I'm already itching to get back into the salt.

I'm looking at keeping the tank I have currently and upgrading the lighting. Right now I have the Marineland reef capable LED fixture. It's not a bad fixture. It's a bit over priced IMO but it can sustain low light corals. I just want to be able to keep some LPS specifically Hammer, Frogspawn and or Torch corals. Of everything I had in the past those were by far my favorite LPS.

I'm looking at this fixture - http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... atid=18700

It's a Current Nova Extreme Pro. 6 bulb x 18watts. It's probably a bit much for just LPS but I can always switch out a 10k for a actinic if need be. The other thing I like about this size tank is when I do a 5g water change, it's about 30% of the water volume when you consider that I have a 2-3 inch deep sand bed and all the live rock. This makes maintenance easy for me. I'll be able to control nutrients a little better with this as well. Depending on how it goes I may try another sump but that won't be until we move into a house. I don't want to get too complicated and have to break things down right away when we move.
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Re: SW Novice - getting rid of everything...

Postby MonarchzMan » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 pm

I've been looking to eventually get into LEDs just to cut down on the energy uptake of the tank and not have to worry about bulb changes. I think that when it happens, I'm going to shoot for one of the kits offered here:

http://reefledlights.com/

They seem to know what they're doing and offer pretty competitively priced lights that you only have to assemble, which seems easy enough.
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Re: SW Novice - getting rid of everything...

Postby ~RuSh~ » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:01 pm

Those prices are pretty competitive... I also like that they allow you to choose the mixture of LED's instead of just stock 12 cool whites and 12 royal blues. I wonder what wattage the LED's are? I can't find that.

Something I can keep in mind at least.
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Re: SW Novice - getting rid of everything...

Postby ~RuSh~ » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:21 pm

UPDATE 12/17/12

It's been about two months since my sump cracked and I decided to give my tank to my brother. If you haven't been following the entire thread (I don't blame you :roll: ) I got tired of keeping up with the maintenance of the sump, fighting the hair algae problem I had and just plain didn't have the extra time on my hands to take care of it all with the addition of my son in late February. I didn't give up completely though, I gave him my tank, light, corals, skimmer, overflow, etc., but I decided to keep my two clowns and some live rock. At the time he had a 20g bowfront with some mushroom corals so we swapped tanks. It worked perfectly.

Since then though the corals in my brothers new tank (my old 29g) went downhill. We still aren't sure what happened but I have a sneeking suspicion that something got into the tank... a chemical of some sort. All of the frogspawn and hammer declined rapidly. 2-3 days and it was all dead. A lot of the other corals suffered badly but we decided to move them into my new tank (the 20g bow). The thing that really makes me believe that it was a chemical is the algae all died off too. The hair algae, red turf algae are gone.... so I'm thinking something nuked the tank. Since then my bro has made a laundry list of rookie mistakes and long story short is that I have been taking care of all of the corals. And they are all doing quite well.

I had three Acanthastrea frags, we lost one. The other two are now fully recovered. There were three candy cane frags that were pretty much bleached and they are nearly fully recovered. There were 5 zoanthid frags that were all declining due to being coated in algae that are all on the comeback. Old polyps opening up and some are spreading out.

Needless to say I have been giving the Marineland Reef capable LED fixture a bit of a harsh review. When my bro had the bow front and the Marineland reef capable there was little to no growth in the tank... I'm still not really sure what the big difference is... about the only thing he did differently was use a different brand of salt. So far this light is working well for me though. I'll get some pics up soon.
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Re: SW Novice - getting rid of everything...

Postby ~RuSh~ » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:59 pm

A couple of updated pics.

20g bowfront, skimmerless, Marineland Reef Capable LED.

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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:38 am

Some better pics, and vid. :D

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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby Lilly » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:28 pm

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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:38 am

Thanks Lilly. A lot of this stuff will be going back to my brother once he gets everything set up but I am going to keep a fair amount of it too.

The zoas for sure. :D
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:58 pm

I put in an order for some more corals with www.pacificeastaquaculture.com last week. Should be shipping today to arrive tomorrow. Be ready for some more pics!
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:45 pm

So my order came in from Pacific East last thursday. I must confess myself a tad bit disappointed. The pieces I ordered are as follows: Rainbow Acanthastrea, Zoanthid medley, Knockout Palys, and Magicians Palys. If you are not familiar with them, the Knockout and Magician palys are sort of 'designer' names and are way over priced. I got them on a bit of a deal though so I sprung for them.

My first complaint is one that I should be familiar with by now. The pieces were all sooo tiny. I don't know why I am continually surprised by their size - frags are usually small, but these are just mere specs next to some of my pieces. My second complaint is that the bag was cold. I know it's partly my fault for ordering during this time of year, but they should have been packed better, or with more heat bags there was only one.

The magician and knockouts haven't opened up yet. I'm not sure if they are going to make it. One type of zoas on the Zoanthid Medley piece is also probably not going to make it. The only piece that is doing well is the Acan frag, which looks great, but like I said... it's soo small.

The last complaint I have is just sort of a dropped expectation. Out of all the places I've ordered online this is the only shop to NOT include a bonus frag or piece. For the amount of money I dropped there, I sort of expected it... only to be disappointed I guess.

Am I expecting too much?
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby MonarchzMan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:56 pm

I think those are reasonable expectations (particularly the shipping). I would assume that if you voiced your concerns to the company (especially if some didn't make it), they'd refund you.

As for the size of things, I was disappointed when I went to a frag swap to see how small the frags were. I haven't ordered online yet, but I've taken to looking at the egg crate the frags are generally sitting in to get an idea of what size they are since each one of those squares is roughly 1/2" x 1/2". I really do wish for the prices of some of these frags that they were more substantial. It particularly sucks because putting such a tiny frag in a tank will often mean it will take forever for it to grow in and actually look nice in the tank. That's one of the issues I'm going to be having with getting frags. I'll get them, but they won't really be noticeable in the tank for some time.
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:47 pm

Well, for what it's worth JP I know that your Hammer will fill out pretty quickly. In less than a year mine went from a single head to about 15. The zoas and mushrooms don't grow particularly fast IME though.

So anyway, I don't have pics of the palys or the zoa rock. I did snap a pic of the acan frag though.

It's actually pretty nice. I can't wait for it to really fill out.
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As you can see there are three different types of Acanthastrea on the frag. I'm not exactly sure how they accomplished this but I can tell that they cut at least two of the frags and glued them together. Still a pretty cool effect and I'm getting several different types on one piece.


I also snagged a really nice Frogspawn when I was at my lps. Nicest piece I've seen there in a long time so I couldn't pass it up.

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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby Lilly » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:43 pm

Love the acan Rush :lthumb: Frog spawn is really nice also....will the nemos use it as a host? How big will it get :?:
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:02 am

The frog will get as big as I let it get, provided it has everything it needs to grow. Moderate lighting, calcium, strotinum(sp?) and magnesium and it's pretty much set. Most euphyllias are pretty hardy and easy to care for. I definitely recommend them. :D

My clowns have hosted an LTA, and a Candy cane. I'm sure clowns will host any euphyllia species, but there is no way to know when or if they will.
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:50 pm

An upgrade is in my future. I'm not 100% sure when yet, but it's going to happen. My oscar has been fading lately. He's very lethargic and sort of just sits in a corner all day. I think after he passes I'll probably sell the 125g tank and everything along with it. The cans, the tank and a few miscellaneous items should fetch me between 5-700 bucks.

The plan at that point is to put a good chunk of money into a LED fixture. I'm looking at the EVO200 LED fixture thanks to Monarchzman. And I'll be finishing my stand that is currently on hold at my parents place. The tank I'm planning on going with is a 40 breeder. A tank with a depth of 16 inches, and the EVO200 LED fixture I should be able to keep everything from SPS to Clams to anemones.

But before I get ahead of myself I do want to master one thing. I've been following along on Kmudas NP Active Pearls thread and how he was able to eliminate his nitrate creep. I want to achieve and maintain this as well on my future reef tank, but since I need to work out the specifics and setup I'm going to do my trial and error on my current setup. If I can really make it work on my little bowfront and I have consistent success, then I'll move forward with the upgrade, but not until I do so. I don't want to drop all that cash and be trying to figure out my phosphate levels and nitrate creep all the while dialing back the power on my 500$ LED fixture.

So stay tuned for some tweaks on my current setup and look for a potential upgrade in the future. :lthumb:
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:12 pm

A few more shots of how things look as of late.

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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby Buehler » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:01 am

Tankis looking great. Can't wait to get mine set back up.
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:30 am

Thanks B. Good to hear from you man. :lthumb:
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Re: SW Novice - Ups and Downs.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:20 pm

Well it looks like this tank is going on a bit of a hiatus. We just bought a house. I have been planning on upgrading this tank from the 16g bow it is now to a 40g breeder. To help simplify the move I think I'm going to have my brother take most of the corals (if not all of them) to reduce risk. I may even have him keep them until I get the 40g breeder tank set up. It might be one month, it might be 6 months I don't know. But when I get things rolling again I'm going for the gusto -

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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby Buehler » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:55 pm

BAM! I like it :)
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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby Kmuda » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:47 pm

Buying a house is stressful enough. I can understand not adding to the stress by trying to move the fish.

I found the exact opposite worked for me. Last time I bought a house I was so stressed about moving the tanks and fish that none of the other stuff mattered. :lol:

Also came in handy, I put the wife and kids on everything else. All of the other packing and unpacking. I was busy preparing and then setting up fish tanks. :lthumb:
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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:58 pm

For the past week I've felt like I swallowed a tennis ball and only half succeeded. It's been super stressful. I definitely don't need to make the move harder.

The 125 is thinning out soon as well. I plan on dumping my ornate bichir off at the LFS for some store credit (should be a substantial amount this guy is about 14 inches and very nice looking) and if they have room the two Severums as well. That will leave me with my oscar and a small blue acara I picked up a few weeks ago. And if I don't have to worry about moving and acclimating corals that will really simplify things.
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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby Kmuda » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Feeling like you swallowed a tennis ball is no problem. It's when you feel like you are trying to poo it back out that you know you have a problem. :lol: :shock:

Don't worry too much. Things are going to happen one way or another and worrying does not affect the outcome. :mrgreen:

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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby ~RuSh~ » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:07 pm

Kmuda wrote:Feeling like you swallowed a tennis ball is no problem. It's when you feel like you are trying to poo it back out that you know you have a problem. :lol: :shock:


Touche'. :lol:
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Re: SW Novice - on hiatus.

Postby Lilly » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:57 pm

Hey Rush,

Congrats on the house! When is the closing.... I use to work for a mortgage broker....if you have any questions I can try and help :D
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