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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 6 months 2 weeks ago #71399

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Here we are again. Mumbling and bumbling about the same talking points and issues. I wonder some days if I didn't just set up the tank and get water and live rock going if I wouldn't just have a burst of enthusiasm again... an expensive gamble.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 6 months 2 weeks ago #71401

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With the wise words of the great Arnold Schwarzenegger

We need to stop talking about the people as if they were the crown of creation.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 6 months 2 weeks ago #71403

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Ah Arnold. He always knows just what to say. Lol!
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 6 months 1 week ago #71461

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same deli ma here. I did get sea salt on sale, I have the fry in a 30 gallon at the moment, I have a hydrometer, heater, hang on back filter. The fry are big enough to sell now and they are coloring up now.

The temptation is there to set the 30 gallon up as a salt water tank but the question is, do I dare
65 gallon
2 yellow tail aceis
1 yellow top finned Lawanda
2 male cobues, 1 cobue fry
6 female cobue peacocks
2 Synodontis lucipinnis
1 electric yellow

5.5 Gallon
red finned, blue and white marbled Delta tail betta


30 gallon
3 males, 4 females

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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 3 weeks ago #71508

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Let me know if you decide to do it. As of late I have been leaning towards setting up the salt tank. I finally got rid of like 35-40 baby bristlenose plecos, and my 20g which I plan to use as a sump is almost empty. I'll take that down soon regardless of the salt setup, and be left with just my 125g. I have even entertained thoughts of taking that down but I really do love the Geos still.

At this point my next step would be to finish up the trim on my stand, and then stain and varnish it. Then drill the 40, and get the sump plumbed. I'd also have to price return pumps, and think about getting a decent light - though that part can certainly wait as the cycle will take quite a while (no more 'live rock' at my current lfs).

It's still on my mind.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 3 weeks ago #71540

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www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Timer-165W-A...ds=Viparspectra+reef 120.00
www.glass-holes.com/700-In-aNd-Out-Complete-System-innout7.htm 170.00
www.amazon.com/Supreme-Danner-ASP02513-3...%2Bdrive%2Bpump&th=1 90.00
www.bulkreefsupply.com/ 20lbs Reefsaver rock, 40lbs aragonite sand 97.00
www.bulkreefsupply.com/hydor-koralia-evolution-850gph.html Hydor koralia 850gph x2 90.00 + Eheim Jager 27.00 = 117.00

Total = 594.00


So this is a rough figure on everything that I would need to get up and running from where I am now. This is all assuming that I can find my refractometer (which I cannot currently) and that my RODI is still somewhat capable of rejecting water. I do have back up membranes so I'm not too worried about that.

I have the tank, and I am 80% done with the stand, I have the sump though it's not in sump form currently - it's holding some remaining BN pleco fry and angels but I can move them over to the 125g basically any time.

Above is a Viaraspectra light LED 165W which I believe will be plenty for some LPS and softies. The glass holes complete system will allow me to drill the tank, have an overflow, and a nice clean return system. With the loc-line returns I might even be able to get away with just one koralia powerhead, but I'll get two just in case. I haven't done the math for the head loss so I'm just guessing on the pump size, but I'll either get the danner, or a lifeguards quiet one.

Sand and rock are pretty self explanatory. I have some rock, but not enough for a 40.

So before fish, cuc, and possibly corals we're looking at a minimum of 600 bucks... :/
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 1 week ago #71614

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Eureka! Just found an old box of dry rock that I bought years ago. Forgot I even had it. Must be about 40lbs there, plus the 20is that I knew I had in the basement. Easily gives me enough for the 40. Also did some calculating and more research and I think I'm going to go with a lifeguard aquatics quiet one 300 pump. It does around 750 gph and after head loss calculations I'd still be over 500gph which is a little fast, but I can either T off the return line or just put in a valve to slow down the flow. That will save me some cash as well over the danner.

Viparspectra LED - 120
INandOUT system from glass holes - 170
www.amazon.com/Quiet-One-Lifegard-Aquari...RZPMPCHD8M6ZWF3Y13Z4 - 53.00
www.bulkreefsupply.com/aragonite-special...-40lbs-caribsea.html - 40.00
Koralia/Jager heater -73.00

New total - 456.00


Edit - need this too.www.coralvue.com/drain-plug
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 1 week ago #71628

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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 1 week ago #71663

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If I did I would never get my sister to leave. She would love to help me set it up. She used to keep guppies and a betta at some point in time.

What kind of dry rock are you using? Macro rock or?

I picked up a bag of 15 pounds of sand reef grade. Still unsure if 15 pounds is enough or I should up it to 25 pounds. I don't want too deep of a sand bed.

turns out when the one peacock I thought was a blue neon started coloring up, turns out to be a yellow top finned Lawanda.
65 gallon
2 yellow tail aceis
1 yellow top finned Lawanda
2 male cobues, 1 cobue fry
6 female cobue peacocks
2 Synodontis lucipinnis
1 electric yellow

5.5 Gallon
red finned, blue and white marbled Delta tail betta


30 gallon
3 males, 4 females

The psych meter has gone from sane to insane.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 5 months 1 week ago #71666

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The rock I am using is a combination of what I bought from a LFS years and years ago for my very first salt set up, and another 60 or so pounds from a guy I found on craigslist who was selling a bunch from his tank that he had taken down. Nothing special, though some of the pieces I got from the craigslist dude are pretty unique.

You can buy dry rock from a bunch of different websites for pretty cheap. I'd recommend www.bulkreefsupply.com. Their reefsaver rock is not pulled from the ocean so it doesn't damage any reef systems. It's obviously clean and looks great.

If you are using that 30 gallon tank, then you'll want around 30lbs of sand - in a standard tank that usually equates to about a 1 inch deep sand bed.
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