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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69179

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I have a 125g SA community, 75g solo carpintis, 46g mixed bag, and 20g fry/grow out tank. I figure if I take down three of these, that's the equivalent of one reef tank, lol.

I picked up that skimmer last night. It's about the size of my daughter... massive. I actually don't know if it will fit under the stand that I built... I'll get pics up later.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69186

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I've always dreamed of doing a salt water tank and after talking with the girl from Big Als, she said the South African cichlid tank I set up is a good way to cross over from fresh water to salt water. Especially when learning how to handle the water chemistry.

I finally stabilized the PH with baking soda and upped the GH with cichlid lake salt from Seachem. The PH now stays around 7.9 to 8.0 between water changes vs the PH dropping below 7.6 two days after the wc. I noticed it seemed to stress the peacocks out when the PH dropped below the minimum. The GH and KH was around four. But is now stable at ten. Tarheel96 is very knowledgeable :)

If I do salt water. I'm not going above thirty, so I'm thinking two fake clown fish, a shrimp or two, a watchman yellow goby and hermit crabs.

I'm interested in seeing how this turns out Rush. can't wait to see the end result :)
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2 yellow tail aceis
1 yellow top finned Lawanda
2 male cobues, 1 cobue fry
6 female cobue peacocks
2 Synodontis lucipinnis
1 electric yellow

5.5 Gallon
red finned, blue and white marbled Delta tail betta


30 gallon
3 males, 4 females

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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69187

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A larger tank is actually more forgiving for beginners. I know it seems even more overwhelming but salinity and temp swings are much more common in smaller setups. 40 breeders are a great beginner size, even a 55g, as common as they are would be a good way to start.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69189

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well I was going to make plans to upgrade my current tank to a 75 gallon to give the fish an extra foot of room of space

I was going to sell the 65 gallon but maybe instead of selling the tank :think:

If I do go salt water, I plan to keep it to a low bioload so wcs aren't quite so bad

maybe just maybe I could work this to my advantage or sell the 65 gallon and use the money to put towards a smaller 40 gallon.

I am going to give this some thought and half a ton of research is already underway. First I want to see how the South African tank goes first.
65 gallon
2 yellow tail aceis
1 yellow top finned Lawanda
2 male cobues, 1 cobue fry
6 female cobue peacocks
2 Synodontis lucipinnis
1 electric yellow

5.5 Gallon
red finned, blue and white marbled Delta tail betta


30 gallon
3 males, 4 females

The psych meter has gone from sane to insane.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69192

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You can make it as simple or as difficult as you want to. If you are comfortable balancing your GH/KH with water changes for the Africans, a FOWLR, or FO tank will be just as easy, or at the very least, no more difficult.

The only thing that is a bit of a pain with larger tanks, is that water changes can be more cumbersome because you have to mix the salt before adding back to the tank, so if you want to do a 50% water change on a 40 breeder, then you need a tub or trash can (I know a lot of ppl use brute trash cans) to mix the salt in and get the salinity and temp right before your water change. Other than that, I imagine it's quite similar to what you are already doing.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69193

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Hey mate, I think the aggressive behavior of your carpintis is caused to the tank size, I think he would do better in the 125 with an female and something to fight like a pair of Salvini or 2 pairs of bigger Cryptoheros. The right now tank is just way to small for him and another fish.
I learned the same lesson with trimaculatus in 120G. It's just not possible to keep them harmonical in this tank size. Maybe in 240 minimum alone or 300+ with something different for the male to fight off like yellow jackets.
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69194

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I would agree. He seems to be constantly roaming looking for a fight. But at this point in time I just don't have the space to give him a larger tank. I'm opting to sell, or maybe give him to my brother, who has a 135g with some CA/SA's.

I have not quite made up my mind completely though. Sometimes I look at him and think, how could I give him away!
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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69201

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The future or never?.... 40g breeder Reef setup. 1 year 10 months ago #69204

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I've never seen a child so enthused by a Protein Skimmer before. :thumbs:
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I told her it was a popcorn popper. :lol:
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