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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69032

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HITH HLLE
-Caught VERY early when he had 1-2 holes
-75 gallon tank
-Alone
-NO carbon filtration
-30% water changes (75 sometimes)

-Feeding mostly MY cb mosquito fish, earthworms, MY cb dubia roaches, algae wafers (pleco food)

Medicine
- API general cure
- API melafix
- I have used salt once

PLEASE help! Although I'm glad I caught it early, I am still desperate for input and trying to prevent scars. I have been trying my best to keep him healthy otherwise.


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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69033

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Oh and ammonia nitrites are 0. Nitrates are well under control with pothos and anubias plants and water changes
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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69034

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Something doesn't add up.
This is advanced HITH.
What does nitrates under control mean?
Do you test for them?
30% water changes weekly is insuffucient.
There is pretty much no chance this fish will not have scars, I would consider having it recover at all a success.
You must start the healing process by keeping nitrates below 5 ppm. (80%+ weekly water changes might do it).
If your nitrates are above 20 to 30 ppm, any meds you may have tried would not have any effect, meds require pristine water to have the desired effect.


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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69035

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" Nitrates are well under control with pothos and anubias plants and water changes" is pretty self explanatory. But yes I will be doing much larger water changes. I'm assuming that's the only thing I am doing wrong.
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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69038

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To eliminate 100 mg/l of No3 per week you need around 50 pounds of plants.
You may eliminate a small amount but nearly not enough to have it call under control.

An 75G is an high maintaince tank for such an big fish. If you want to eliminate NO3 for real you need an propper selective resin filter by bypass on your filtration.
But even by eliminating NO3 fully you need to change at least 50 to 60% in this case to recharge trace elements and some other important things your fish needs.

In this heavy case I would allready go with at least two 60/70% per week and add a bit of peat and capatta leafs to Filtration. Also keep the diat a bit more omnivore while you feed alot of protein.
A kelp pellet for Malawi cichlids would also be a better Option as pleco food on the nutrient side also ty to give at least any 10 or 14 days may a favorite fruit or berry, here you have to test what he prefers.
We need to stop talking about the people as if they were the crown of creation.
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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69039

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Without actual nitrate readings in PPM "under control' means absolutely nothing to us. This fish needs to never see more than ~10ppm nitrates or so for this to ever be under control and hopefully heal.
75g a tiger oscar and a green severum
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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69044

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Unless you test the water to see what the actual nitrate levels are, simply claiming they are under control is meaningless, especially given the condition of that poor fish.
If you test the water, please post the test results in ppm.
Otherwise, please get a test kit or take a sample to someone who has one.


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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69054

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What are you using to test the water with? I don't trust the strips, they're too inaccurate most of the time.

Nitrates under control means nothing to us until you can share the actual number.

This is not early, this is advanced Hole in the Head.

Find a good quality pellet to feed your fish and back down on the earth worms a little and other stuff for a while.

I would consider doing 30 percent water changes a day. What kind of filter are you using?
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2 yellow tail aceis
4 juvenile peacocks
2 Synodontis lucipinnis

5.5 Gallon
Half moon Betta

The psych meter has gone from sane to insane.
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█░█Oscar hole in the head NOT HEALING 4 months 2 weeks ago #69055

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blackcougar wrote:
What are you using to test the water with? I don't trust the strips, they're too inaccurate most of the time.

Nitrates under control means nothing to us until you can share the actual number.

This is not early, this is advanced Hole in the Head.

Find a good quality pellet to feed your fish and back down on the earth worms a little and other stuff for a while.

I would consider doing 30 percent water changes a day. What kind of filter are you using?

No I caught it early but it advanced so I decided to ask others for help. I have dealt with this before and have always been successful
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tom wrote:
Unless you test the water to see what the actual nitrate levels are, simply claiming they are under control is meaningless, especially given the condition of that poor fish.
If you test the water, please post the test results in ppm.
Otherwise, please get a test kit or take a sample to someone who has one.

Yes of course i test it. It never exceeds 15 but I will try to keep it even lower.
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